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Yes, ATEM Mini has PREVIEW!

Photo Moment - December 20, 2019

There's a little misinformation about PREVIEW vs MULTI-VIEW on the ATEM Mini out there, and I wanted to clarify. This video explains the differences between PROGRAM, PREVIEW and MULTI-VIEW, and how to enable true PREVIEW mode on your ATEM Mini!

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Yes this video filled in the cracks from your overview video thx
And there’s one miss to watch now…
Great video.
Just an addendum. The ATEM software does not work on every ATEM. More accurately only with the second generation or later ATEMs. Older ATEMs will not work with the current version of the software. Example, I have an older ATEM 1m/e. It will only work with up to v7.0.3 of the software. The original TVS is even lower. V6.9 I think. The same probably applies to the original 2m/e.
Not a problem if your using any of the current ATEM switchers being sold. Just thought I'd throw that in.
Oh interesting, I didn’t know that. Thanks!
@PhotoJoseph I think between the 1st generation ATEMs (that don't have buttons and little LCD screens) and all others that follow, there were probably major changes in the Hardware. To many to support the latest firmwares.
I am wondering now if the same fate might befall the rack mount ATEM vs all the new ATEMs coming out that have control surfaces.
Thank a lot man.
My pleasure!
Mannn got so excited with the first review. While no multi-view in not necessarily a deal breaker it is a feature you normally expect switchers o have. Hope they do add it in a future update.
I think given the price, it's unlikely they will add it (even if the hardware can handle it). It'd destroy their $1,000 switcher market. I think it's pretty legit NOT to have it at this price point, considering the target market (people making self-produced shows).
Hi Joseph, been a while since your last content, hope all is well?
Thanks for that Tony… yep, all was fine; the video I just released took WAY longer than I wanted to do, partially because I had to wait for a replacement part and didn't want to break down the intricate set I'd built for it, and of course it was the holidays, too… thanks though and I hope you enjoy the new video!
It is a shame that there is no multiview by default! This is one of most important functions in every switcher!
Well… in every switcher starting at $1,000 😁
Thanks for the explanation. I don’t think that multiview will be availible for this switcher, because it will make the Television Studio HD ($1000) almost useless and non sense to buy (except if you are going to use more than 4 HDMI cameras). All this functions for $300? This is a bargain. I can live without multiview.
However, I am sure that if BMD did this for $300 they could easilly add multiview and sold it for around $400 maybe. But again, doing that could kill even more the Television Studio switcher.
You’re probably right.
I have just received Blackmagic Atem Mini without Software included.. Can you give me LINK from where I can Download software
I don’t know it offhand but just go to the Blackmagic website and search for it under Products. Or watch this video where I show how to find it
I just got an AVerMedia Live Gamer Portable 2 Plus 4K to record a local copy of my live streams. I connected it between the ATEM mini and the Webcaster X2 and couldn’t get it to work right. I did get it to work from the X2 hdmi out but I wanted to put it before the X2. Any ideas why this device isn’t working between the ATEM mini and the X2? Thanks!
Hmm… OK, I’m thinking that the ATEM is changing the frequency output when the cameras change. Which I didn’t think it’d do,but maybe it does. Hmm… two things to look at. First, you can change the output of the ATEM. I don’t recall what the default setting is, but you can do that in the ATEM software. Also, check what the supported resolutions and frequencies (i.e. 1080p29.97) are on the Aver. Make sure that the ATEM is set to something the Aver supports. If you can CHOOSE a setting for the Aver (instead of letting it be automatic), do that. Finally, even though you should not have to, make sure your cameras are all outputting the same thing. Basically what you’re trying to do is ensure that there are NO frame size or frequency changes when you switch devices.
@PhotoJoseph Thanks, I'll keep testing it and see what I can come up with.
@PhotoJoseph I’m done with this AVerMedia device...haha. I’ll try an HDMI splitter tomorrow but if that doesn’t work then back to Amazon it goes. I’ll send it to you if you want to try and figure it out. I’d love to see a video solving this issue!
Did you get any farther with this?
@PhotoJoseph Hi, yes... sort of. The splitter garbled my audio and wasn't usable. Maybe another splitter would have worked better, but by then I didn't trust the AverMedia device anymore. I returned it. I'm thinking about trying a Cloner Alliance Evolve and if that doesn't work I guess a Blackmagic Video Assist. I don't really need the extra monitor. I wish there was something with the recording capacity of the Assist but without the monitor. Doesn't seem to be anything like that on the market.
Really nice and clear explanation, thanks so much! I am so used to having Multi-view with Vmix and a Decklink Duo that I'm not sure I can live without it.
Yeah once you're used to that it's tough to go without. But remember that this device is really designed for, I'd say, self-broadcasts. No producer, no one doing the switching for you.
PhotoJoseph Yeah, it’s definitely very powerful for the money. Just did a 24 hour live stream using a Roland V-60, and it was fantastic but overpowered for a 3 camera simple show. I wish there was a way to get the Mini for a day of testing before purchasing. Might just take the shot since it is so affordable.
Given the price, it's an easy buy. And you can always return it if it really doesn't work out. I think that DVEStore still has them in stock, if no one else does:
Is it possible to have the preview in obs and the program through hdmi? also, what's the hdmi program out latency? I need to use it in a 3 camera setup for classical music concerts. The hdmi program out goes to a projector to allow the far audience to see the musicians, but if there's too much delay between the images and the music the will notice it.
You can't set the preview to the USB-out, only to the HDMI-out. The HDMI latency comes from the camera, not the ATEM. So you have to measure it for your configuration; I measured 125ms on my setup. Remember that if you route the audio through the camera, the latency problem goes away. Since you're doing a concert, I'd imagine the audio coming to you is coming from a mixing board, so the mixer should be able to program in a delay for you.
Hi Joseph, right at the end of a cracking video yo stated that you could set the Atem Mini up so that you would not need to be dependant on the software, does that mean that once you set it up with the software in a certain way and saved, you could take the Atem away from the pc and everytime you switched on and opened the last file you saved you'll be back into the settings you previouly saved but not being connected to the pc. ( PS: sorry Joseph suddenly realised I needed the software to gain access to the file anyway, so we can't take the settings on the road away from the pc)
Yes and no… the ATEM is fully functional without the software, but buttons like PiP are presets and are hard coded, so the only way to do a different PiP configuration would be to use the software. Preferences are saved to the device though, like setting the HDMI out to be Program or Preview. Does that answer your question?
@PhotoJoseph Thanks Joseph.
This is my first time seeing your channel, I have subscribed after watching this video on atem mini, this is the best video on this product I have watched on YouTube. Great video. I hope other videos on your channel will be great as this one. I gonna check them out!
Thanks, I appreciate that! I have more of these coming on the ATEM Mini ;-)
Does audio automatically sync with a microphone coming from a separate mixer out into the ATEM MINI mic input
No. Watch the first video where I explain that
Excellent video. Just about to get one of these for my church and you answered ALL of my questions.
Sweet! They are hard to find now, but I believe that the DVE Store has them in stock — try here
Thank you Sir for your inspiring tutorial on this program and preview issues. Pls is it there any way I can save my output on hard drive.
Just connect a recorder like the Atomos to the HDMI, or use software like OBS to record the output over USB into a computer.
You are a great instructor. Thank you!
Thank you Curtis. That means a lot coming from you!
I'm pretty sure they aren't going to add the multi view option, because a device from BM which does JUST THIS thing costs more than this switcher
So do scalers, actually… but what BM device does just multi-view? I haven't seen this.
​@PhotoJoseph ​ it's called "Blackmagic MultiView 4" - technically if somebody has enough money (extra ~$1.000) can use this to get the MultiView in ATEM MINI - 4 hdmi Camers go on sdi converters to MultiView 4, this device has 4 out ports so you out 4 cameras again - sdi to hdmi converters and connect every of each 4 hdmi sources to ATEM MINI. And now you have the preview from the 4 cameras on BM MultiView 4 on one monitor, but now just the PGM output (and preview) is missing because that extra device supports just 4 sources, so the PGM you have on the second monitor from the hdmi in ATEM MINI.
What's interesting - it's still way cheaper than to buy a switcher with this option because the only switcher from BM which has this and you can connect to it sources on different resolutions and frame rates is ATEM Television Studio Pro 4K which is $3000
Got it. Yeah, major extra expense. But hey, it could still happen! ;-)
Hahahah Thank you Very Much this is the ATEM mini that im waiting Kudos !! To you Sir. I just checked out my order at amazon
You're welcome, and enjoy!
😎😎😎this is nice Photo Joseph
Why thank you. And, you’re welcome!
Shock! what no Multi-view !! yesterday I found out there is NO 1080I50 what a let down :) cheers for telling us :) eN
Great tutorial! Thanks for sharing the fine details. [[[Sub'd]]]]
Why, thank you and thank you!
Hey, how u contented ATEM with old macbook without usb c?
You don’t need USB-C, but you do need USB 3. The ATEM comes with a USB-A to USB-C 3.1 cable. (The number is the speed generation; the letter is the shape of the connector)
Please send me a link to where you bought it bcse you know its not available on B&H
DVE Store still has them, I believe
Dude thank you for the awesome video. I didn’t think you could preview on this device which put me off. Multi view would be nice but at least I can preview a shot before pushing it live. This feature alone has made me want to buy this again. Thank you
Awesome to hear! DVE Store emailed me on Christmas Eve to say they got 50 more in stock… go get it!
So kind of like the old Video Toaster.
Right. Just all grown up for the modern age.
Can we do a video replay using this. I am vmix user
You can't without adding extra hardware. This isn't designed for that and has no recording capability. If you added a Hyperdeck you could probably do it, but that costs more than the ATEM Mini. You're looking at a much bigger solution, really. The Mini probably isn't the product for you. If you really wanted to hack it together, you could set the HDMI out to show whatever camera input you want to replay, and connect that into a recorder. Then from the recorder, feed its output back into one of the ATEM inputs. If the recorder has a replay function, you'd trigger that, and switch the input on the ATEM to that recorder. If your recorder doesn't, then you could just record constantly, and when you want to play back, stop, rewind, play, and switch to that input on the ATEM.
Just one.
Seeing a lag on the GoPro feed when you are switching Previews and Program. Is that normal? Referring from 10:11 onwards....
Yeah, the GoPro has serious lag
My ATEM Mini just shipped, so I am very excited to start using it. Great tutorial Joseph.
Awesome, and thanks!
Thank you Joseph. very informative.
My pleasure!
Just cancelled my B&H order since its been on backorder for weeks. Ordered from DVE through your link. They say it's available so I have my fingers crossed it will come soon!
the atems are based on xilinx zinq fpgas, there may not be enough hardware resources in the particular chip used to add the multiview feature. the format adaptation feature on each input may use up all those resources.
Fair enough. I’m trying to put together an hacked-up multiview solution for those who want to put in the effort and not spend the money ;-)
Yeah if you’re gonna go with that many adapters… just get a bigger ATEM or alternative. It’s silly to piecemeal this too much, I think.
@PhotoJoseph indeed, the atem tvs HD is pretty competitive at about $800
Im very currios if it possible to use an USB to HDMi adaptor to convert USB program Out in to HDMi and use an HDMI hardware encoder to stream and use native HDMi out of the atem mini for preview.
I tried that! Didn’t work :(
Looking at the hardware (FPGA) employed in the 'mini' I don't think it's capable of supporting multiview, hence why it's missing. If you need multiview, this isn't the switcher for you. That said. the mini isn't intended for that demographic and not aimed at the users who would need it. Instead buy the TVS HD. The lowest cost BMD switcher with multiview.
Oh that’s interesting, thanks for sharing that!
I'm not aps. saying it can't be done. I'm hoping the BMD developers are way cleverer than me and adding MV is on their roadmap at some point. But. Hey it's already a great li'll switcher having scalers on each input, fairlight audio and the advanced keyer for its $300 price.
Fingers crossed then!
ATEM Mini is good but only for those who have 3 or 4 camera setups and they are aware of what their camera is capturing, probably 3 camera soccer match setup. Multiview is much needed for this ATEM Mini.
Well, yes, it only has four inputs. The target market for this $300 ATEM is not people with more cameras and a multi-view requirement.
Appreciate your expertise and your complete explanations.. way more useful than many other posts that just discuss features, etc. Guess that “real world” experience really has value ;-)
Hehe thank you, and yes, it does 😁
Incredibly well explained! Great job responding to that issue. BM should link to this video. A bit of extra work since you need to jump through a lot of hoops to enable pvw/pgm and you need a second monitor but it's definitely capable as you showed. Well done.
Could you please measure the lag? Play a 60p video with every frame a number 1-60 (easy to find on YouTube) on a laptop, right beside an output monitor (and take a photo with a shutter speed 60fps or 120fps)... this will give two numbers
I think you're asking about delay from realtime video to output; I don't have that yet but if you meant audio between HDMI and audio input, that's 125ms — I just measured that.
PhotoJoseph thanks 🙏🏻
Great explanation. Thanks!
You're welcome!
Well state PhotoJoseph.
Just got the mini yesterday. Wondering whether the webcam out can be used for preview rather than the HDMI. That would allow ATEM control SW and preview (using any program that can display a webcam) on the computer, and HDMI output to an encoder. I know the Webcaster X2 can take the webcam input (still beta) but the HDMI is more ubiquitous (I also use a teradek vidiu on occasion).
The USB can not be used as Preview, and unfortunately USB also does not work on the X2. HDMI does though. Video to come.
So can't use multiple screens for multiple cameras? ?
@PhotoJoseph How can I contact you and talk about a few things ?
no problem —
@PhotoJoseph sent email thanks
@PhotoJoseph Is it possible to make a video with this setup? Appreciate alot. Thank you.
Yeah I’ll eventually do a video on a few different ways to see everything at once. But it’ll be hard to keep it cost effective.
Thank you Joseph, that was a perfect explanation! We're pretty sure it will work for our needs. Fingers crossed for Multi-View at some point. (if at all possible)
Right on! Thanks, and thanks for watching!
There's a little misinformation about PREVIEW vs MULTI-VIEW on the ATEM Mini out there, and I wanted to clarify. This video explains the differences between PROGRAM, PREVIEW and MULTI-VIEW, and how to enable true PREVIEW mode on your ATEM Mini!
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