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Tom Carroll's picture
by Tom Carroll
September 11, 2013 - 2:16pm

Now that September 10 has come and gone, is there any reason whatsoever to think that Apple has NOT totally given up on future maintenance and development of Aperture and has effectively thrown the software overboard leaving current users twisting in the wind until the last misguided user makes the Herculean effort to shift to Lightroom? That is the question.

Charles Putnam's picture
by Charles Putnam
September 11, 2013 - 2:37pm

Apple has been on a hiring spree for the past six months or so for software engineers, technical writers (“instructional designers”), trainers, etc. - all that include the Aperture team. Also, in a recent survey that Adobe sent out, one of the questions included “will you be upgrading to the next version of Aperture”.

I wasn’t surprised that there wasn’t any mention of updates to Aperture/iLife/iWork for OS X yesterday. Yesterday’s event was all iPhone/iOS7. OS X Mavericks is set to be released in late October (October 25th appears to be the most likely date). Updates to all three, along with the new Mac Pro and updates to the MacBook Pro are also expected.

Butch Miller's picture
by Butch Miller
September 11, 2013 - 2:50pm

I agree with Charles … yesterday’s festivities was about iPhone and iOs 7 … they didn’t even mentions iPods or iPads … which they have done to some extent in the past … I think it may be just a bit premature to offer Aperture Last Rights …

I, for one, am hoping that there will be one huge October Fest celebration for Aperture users … If we don’t hear something more definitive by then … maybe I’ll start to worry more …

David  Moore's picture
by David Moore
September 11, 2013 - 3:36pm

Yes I think Oct would be the right time however I wouldn’t rule out Spring. The new staff might need more time to learn their jobs and make a mark on AP4.

It will come out, and when it does there will be a purchase/upgrade fee, a new learning curve, probably some minor bugs, and the desire to eat CPU and RAM for Breakfast. Probably not all will be able to upgrade due to their older machines. All said…..I cant wait Cheers

davidbmoore@mac.com
Twitter= @davidbmoore
Scottsdale AZ

Butch Miller's picture
by Butch Miller
September 21, 2013 - 3:40am

Don’t get me wrong … I wish Apple would offer a public declaration of their intent where it concerns their pro apps … however, if history is any indication, that’s not going to happen any time soon … if ever.

I did see something interesting today though, which may or may not be an indication.

I was surfing youtube watching some tutorials on Final Cut Pro X … and I saw a presentation by a very respected and renowned educator in the film world … he shared that there will be a significant update to FCP X to coincide with the release of the new Mac Pro … he stated it would be soon, but not this month … the seminar was presented about a week ago … so I wouldn’t be surprised if Aperture is also in the mix … For if we see two major updates to FCP … and no love for Aperture … I may be forced to re-consider my future with Apple software as a solution for the future …

That said, I feel confident with other bits of news and recent hires at Apple, we could hear some good news sooner, rather than later.

Marcus 's picture
by Marcus
September 13, 2013 - 12:56am

I have to say that I have never entirely understood the secrecy attached to things like this.
What possible harm does saying “We intend to release Aperture 4 and the target date is Q4 2013” actually do?
Set against lost sales from people giving up and moving, frustrated users and so on I would have said none.
Ford do not make secret of the fact that a revised Fiesta will be out in 2014- and that does not appear to affect sales of Fiestas!

Butch Miller's picture
by Butch Miller
September 13, 2013 - 1:16am

“What possible harm does saying “We intend to release Aperture 4 and the target date is Q4 2013” actually do?”

If Apple were a privately owned company … there would be absolutely nothing wrong with announcing their intentions … Unfortunately they are a publicly held corporation with stockholders to think of. Traders could substantially inflate or deflate the stock value based upon such an announcement … especially if the target date arrives and the product is not ready for market and/or fails to impress the market place with it’s functionality … the SEC actually has rules forbidding such advance announcements to limit such fluctuations in stock values …

Not to mention, it does little good for all involved if you show the other players at the table your hole card before the appropriate time … it has more impact on the wagers in the interim and removes all doubt as to what your competition must do that is in their best interests … better to keep your competition guessing.

That said … I too long for some official word on what they are up to

Rafael - MyDarkroom.ca's picture
by Rafael - MyDarkroom.ca
September 13, 2013 - 11:44pm

Tom,

I don’t think Apple would talk about anything else other than the iPhone on the September event (except the usual retail update bs). They want all the media attention to the iPhone. I know it can be frustrating sometimes, I looked at this “lack of update” and wrote a blog post “The Aperture Manifesto”, not sure if you had a chance to read it but I would encourage you if you have not had a chance to.

Marcus, I think Butch nailed that. I think that too much secrecy is deleterious to the company (and that may have been in the Aperture case) but pre-announcing and not delivering (as it happened before with other Apple softwares) can be worst.

I am hoping for October/Fall release but to be honest it may only happen in the spring. Still this year we should have new iPads, and unless Aperture is directly linked to them, it will not even be mentioned (can you imagine what the new A7 and potentially A7X 64bit desktop class chip could run?). Then we have the MacPro release. I think FCPX will be updated and will the “selling drive” for that computer along with an iPad sidekick app just like Logic Pro. Plus new iMacs, etc etc etc. So, there is a lot to be released in just 3 months. At the endo of the day, however, it may be just like the LogicPro X announcement: out of nowhere.

While waiting, I am shooting, organizing my AP library, and enjoying life. Won’t lose a night of sleep over things I have no control over.

cheers

Raf

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by Marcus
September 18, 2013 - 5:56am

Meh. I am not convinced.

Car companies are publicly quoted and there’s rarely a shortage of news about next year’s models etc.

Look at Mavericks. How long has that been announced? The website has been up for months and they could still fail to deliver.

I really don’t see how a simple yes we are/no we aren’t announcement is so much of a problem. Apple will never stand or fall on the back of what is now the minority professional photo library app based purely on reading comments on line. Light Room already supports the Olympus EM-1 which is not even on sale yet!

With that sort of approach compared to Apple, I can see why LR seems to have the market share (plus of course that it runs in Windows).

Still my shiny new i7 iMac arrives in the next week or so so I will content myself with enjoying being able to work a whole lot faster than I can now!

Marcus 's picture
by Marcus
September 19, 2013 - 2:00am

I thought of a comparison.

Both Olympus and Fujifilm (and perhaps others but those two for sure) have produced ‘roadmaps’ to show what new lenses they will be producing and approximately when.

AFAIK both companies are publicly quoted (although I am not sure; seems likely) so how is this different from Apple producing an Aperture roadmap?

Martin De's picture
by Martin De
September 19, 2013 - 9:42pm

Thing with Apple is that they want to launch everything out of the blue and have the whole world flabbergasted: “Look want Apple gave us! I want it,it’s great”.
However, now Steve Jobs no longer with us, the public starts to get more critical. So imo the company will need to make clear where it stands on software development and inform us about what to expect and when if it wants to survive in the software market.
Just my 2 ct.

Greetz, Martin

Marcus 's picture
by Marcus
September 19, 2013 - 10:02pm

I agree Martin.

Especially with pro software fully intended to be an integral part of their customer’s businesses.

It does not matter if a 14 year old does not know when iPhoto will be updated. It DOES matter if a professional photographer is finding that the camera RAW support and feature set are slowly falling behind the most comparable product in the market and they need to make business decisions on their software requirements.

Why risk alienating your pro customers in pursuit of some childish secrecy fetish?

Stuart's picture
by Stuart
September 20, 2013 - 7:34pm

It has been a real guessing game on when and even if Apple will be coming out with a version 4 or what ever they would call it. Of course like everyone else I wish they would make some sort of advanced announcement. Now I do use both Aperture and Lightroom so I have been keeping both up to date. I run Aperture as a reference library so I use the same photos for both programs. They are stored on a Drobo 5D and works just fine this way.

I did have the Adobe full CC up until today. Was 29.99 per month until last month my year was up and the rate went to $49.99 per month. But when Adobe announced the Photoshop Photography deal for $9.99 a couple of weeks ago that caught my attention. So this morning I contacted Adobe (online chat) and asked about downgrading? Since I was an owner of Photoshop 5 I was able to downgrade. The process took about 5 minutes. To me $9.99 was a no brainer. Who even knows what Apple will be charging if and when Aperture X is released.

Stu

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by gfsymon
October 17, 2013 - 7:23am

Current version works okay in Mavericks, but is not compatible with the database changes in iPhoto in Mavericks (special version). So you cannot open your Aperture library in Aperture, if you have previously opened it in iPhoto in Mavericks. So an update of some sort must ship with Mavericks, whether it is simply 3.4.6 or something more significant.

Butch Miller's picture
by Butch Miller
October 15, 2013 - 8:17pm

Looks like Oct. 22 is the next opportunity we may hear something new for Aperture … *fingers crossed* … hoping it is more than Mavericks and new hardware will be offered up …

Special Event

Charles Putnam's picture
by Charles Putnam
October 15, 2013 - 8:52pm

FWIW, there was a developer that inadvertently made a comment on Aperture on the Mac App Store that the current version (ver. 3.4.3) does not run on Mavericks.

So……….either a dot upgrade will be required, or hopefully a full version update including some well needed features (lens correction/perspective correction, etc.)

Walter Rowe's picture
by Walter Rowe
October 16, 2013 - 10:30am

The current version is 3.4.5 and it works perfectly on Mavericks.

Darrell H's picture
by Darrell H
October 19, 2013 - 1:16am

I think this event would be the perfect time to introduce v 4. Mac Pro release date, possible Mac Book Pro update, mavericks with updated multi display, and new iPad. Remember they were hiring someone to help with aperture app for iPad and have shown aperture in several demos and ads. There has been rumblings about new Final Cut Pro and iLife suite as well.
I hope they really knock it out of the park. It has been way too long.

Gerald Geist's picture
by Gerald Geist
October 19, 2013 - 11:32am

I use Aperture as a pro photog. Aperture, along with some plug-ins, does all my workflow nicely. I am not “wanting or lacking” anything in the current version but always love to play with new software toys if and when one does come out.

Stuart's picture
by Stuart
October 19, 2013 - 2:47pm

It is going to be interesting on what will take place on Tuesday Oct, 22nd. Mac Rumors posted this information: Expectations for Apple’s October 22 Event: iPads, Mac Pro, and More. Nothing was mentioned about Aperture, however it still may happen. If it does not happen I am sure many will be very disappointed.

David  Moore's picture
by David Moore
October 19, 2013 - 3:03pm

As Ive said before Ap 4.0 is the only secret that Apple seems to be able to keep these days. They keep it so well that I think a minor upgrade with one new feature and the ability to work with Maverick is what he can hope for. Spring time is more likely the big one. But Im hoping next week.

davidbmoore@mac.com
Twitter= @davidbmoore
Scottsdale AZ

Thomas Emmerich's picture
by Thomas Emmerich
October 19, 2013 - 3:38pm

A new ApertureExpert site transition in the middle of a major Aperture update would leave a hole in the space/time continuum. I think Apple should wait until Joseph is ready.

Thomas

Butch Miller's picture
by Butch Miller
October 19, 2013 - 5:42pm

Thomas … hopefully it is Joseph who is waiting on Apple before he makes the transition … timing is everything … it would be nice to have both at once …

I have seen the rumor from more than one expert on Final Cut Pro … that FCP X is to receive a significant upgrade to coincide with Mavericks … if that is the case and we don’t see anything significant for Aperture … I, for one, will be disappointed. I’m hoping that we haven’t seen something yet for Aperture because they are awaiting the release of Mavericks to support new features … Counting down to Tuesday’s festivities …

Tom Carroll's picture
by Tom Carroll
December 3, 2013 - 7:12pm

Thanks for all your comments, men.  And we wait.

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